A serious dude

Chris Collingwood, front man of 3S Fest headliners Fountains of Wayne, discusses the group's new CD, his somber reflections on life, and why having a big radio hit can be more of a curse than a blessing.

Those only passingly familiar with Fountains of Wayne might expect lead singer Chris Collingwood to be a jaunty, effervescent personality with a penchant for witty banter. They'd be surprised to learn he's in fact a solemn and pensive guy who harbors a bit of a dark side.

Collingwood started Fountains of Wayne in New York with bassist and fellow songwriter Adam Schlesinger in the mid-1990s, naming the group after a well-known garden shop in nearby Wayne, N.J. (the store closed a couple of years ago). They released their self-titled debut in 1996 to modest success, but achieved mainstream stardom with their 2003 record "Welcome Interstate Managers," which featured the hit song and video "Stacy's Mom" (you know, "Stacy's mom has got it goin' on").

Since then, the band has struggled to escape the shadow of its one commercial hit, while yet building a strong fan base. Their fifth album, "Sky Full of Holes," just released by indie label Yep Roc Records, is a good example of how they do it. While it features many of the catchy power-pop melodies and quirky lyrical storylines for which the band has become known, it's also got some weightier material. The album takes its name from a line delivered in the final track, about a military funeral.

Fountains of Wayne is currently touring in support of the new disc, and they'll perform at Prescott Park in Portsmouth on Saturday, Aug. 20, as part of 3S Fest. Other acts on the bill include former Soul Coughing front man Mike Doughty, bi-coastal duo Soft Swells and local favorite Tan Vampires.

The show is presented by the Prescott Park Arts Festival, 3S Artspace, The Wire and 92.5 The River. It's intended to raise awareness about 3S, an arts organization with plans to open a multi-use venue with a concert hall, art gallery and restaurant in Portsmouth in the fall of 2012.

Collingwood, who now lives in Massachusetts, recently spoke to The Wire about "Sky Full of Holes," as well as his past struggles with alcoholism, the issues that inspire his songs, and how "Stacy's Mom" nearly doomed the band to one-hit wonderdom.

It's been 15 years since Fountains of Wayne released its first album. When you compare that debut to "Sky Full of Holes," is there anything that jumps out at you in terms of how the band has grown or evolved?

Yeah, you know, that first record we made in a week. It was actually written really quickly, as well. I think every time we go in to record it's kind of a reflection of what's going on in our lives at the time. In 1996 we were both living in New York, kind of young and drunk. We really didn't take our time on that first record at all. I mean, it sounds like it. It's not rushed or anything, but we didn't really slow down to consider different production possibilities or different instrumentation or anything. We got through it really quickly. I think since then it's just been a process of adding more and more instrumentation to records and trying out different ideas, hopefully not losing the thing that made it interesting in the first place.

What about lyrically? Do you feel like the themes of your lyrics have evolved with each of your five albums?

For myself, specifically, I think over the past 15 years my contributions to the band have gotten less and less goofy and silly. I don't know if that's a product of age or just the different moods I've been in as the different albums have come around. Certainly on the new album there's more melancholy content than we've dealt with in the past.

There's definitely a somber and serious message in the closer, "Cemetery Guns." Where did that song come from?

I just decided to write a song about a military funeral. It kind of came because a foreign journalist asked me at one point if the band ever felt the need to deal with the serious issues in the world. I think it was around the time "Traffic and Weather" came out (2007), and there's a lot of lighthearted subject matter on that album. In general, I'm not a very lighthearted, easygoing guy in my life. I'm a pretty serious dude (laughs). That song's probably more reflective of the type of things I think about, as opposed to, you know, some of the subject matter from our first album with bikers and whatever the hell else we were talking about.

I understand the shop for which the band was named closed a couple of years ago. What's it like to have outlived your namesake?

(Laughs.) I never thought about it in that sense. Those guys were really nice. I'm sorry they're not there anymore. We went down and met them when the band first formed. I think they were a little bit worried back in '96 that we were going to be some death metal band, not knowing anything about us, and they didn't want it to reflect poorly on their store. So we actually went down and had a little discussion with them and it was all cool. It seemed like a nice place. You know, it was an institution in Jersey, and it's always sad when those things go away.

You guys take a lot of time between albums. Do the band members have many side projects going on?

Adam is actually really busy doing a lot of TV and whatever he does with boy bands and all that other stuff, producing these young acts. I don't actually do a whole lot when I'm not doing this band. I actually kind of keep to myself, read a lot of books and garden and golf and stuff (laughs).

There was a particularly long break after Atlantic dropped you in the late '90s. But you returned in 2003 with "Welcome Interstate Managers." What was it like for you guys to come back and have a big hit with "Stacy's Mom"?

I thought that taking a break between the second and third albums was actually really good for us creatively. When we were on Atlantic, we had some moderate success with that first record, and when you're on a major (label) and you're young, the curse of the second album definitely adds some pressure to create something that's either airplay-worthy or trying to maintain what audiences got and build on it somehow. But, when we made "Welcome Interstate Managers," we didn't have a record deal, at all. We just made that record and kind of shopped it around. Stylistically, at least, it sounds like we were unencumbered when we were making that record, and I think you can kind of hear when you listen to it that it's kind of all over the map, like "The White Album" or something—country songs and slow songs and fast songs. We had that approach again this time. When we made the new record, we also didn't have a record deal. I think that's the way to do it, just to not have any preconceptions or second guess what the record's about, and trying not to pre-guess your position in the music landscape as you're making it. That's always a bad decision.

Do you think "Stacy's Mom" and your earlier albums typecast the band as a jokey kind of group?

Oh, there's no question about that. That song is a blessing and a curse. I've said it before but it's true. A lot of people knew that song, but very few of those people are the kind of people who are really intense music fans and actually bothered to figure out who sang it or anything. So, we've always had a mix of fans at our shows—people who are serious music fans who actually listen to the entire catalog and know the songs, and then the other people that our manager calls "drive bys." Those are the people that only know that one hit. There are people who listen to whatever hit is on the radio and don't actually get really serious about investigating bands and stuff. I think, if anything, it's actually been a downside for getting us further exposure, because for people who only know that song, it's not really an incentive to go listen to the band any further, because it is a one-liner and it's kind of tossed off. I mean, if I had heard that song and didn't know the rest of the band's catalog, I would never have gone out and investigated us (laughs).

You went through a difficult period following that album. Can you talk about your state of mind then and how you got through it?

Yeah, I mean, it was around 2006. I was drinking heavily and touring and I had a horrible psychotic breakdown in Japan. Came back and spent some time in the hospital in Massachusetts and then was pretty heavily medicated for about a year after that. Everything's fine now (laughs), but it's actually amazing how I was kind of going through the motions for a few years there. On the "Traffic and Weather" record, the one prior to this, I only contributed three songs, and even one of those was a pretty old song that I had left over from a country band I was in in Boston in the early '90s. I was really, really rundown and not sleeping and not eating and drinking too much, and it wasn't a surprise when that all went down. The good thing about it is coming out of the other end of that and being able to sort of reassess what I want to do with the band. I think that at least my contributions to the new record are more reflective of the person that I am and not trying to play up to what other people's idea of the band is, which is happy-go-lucky kind of humsters. That's less of what I am on a day-to-day basis.

What are your hopes for "Sky Full of Holes"? I mean, would you like to score another big commercial hit? Is that something that matters to you?

It doesn't matter, no, not at all. And I also don't think that climate exists anymore. I don't think there's any chance of our having a good radio hit from that record. You know, I think if we had never had "Stacy's Mom," we probably would have had the type of trajectory I imagined when we first started the band, which was slowly building up a loyal following and being able to get to the point where we could have a career without a massive radio hit. There are a lot of bands like that that have a pretty big presence without getting played on the radio. For better or worse, we may have made that harder for ourselves with "Stacy's Mom." But I'm proud of the way the new record sounds. I'm going to keep trying to make records that I like as opposed to second-guessing what kind of audience we have out there.

How has the tour been going this summer?

Pretty good so far. We're in Cape Cod right now. Only three shows left on this leg, then a couple of weeks off and then we head out for the West Coast and then out to Europe in November. So, yeah, it's going good. We got a really, really good reaction to the new record, which I'm glad about. And I see a lot of the same faces in a lot of these towns, which is good. Yeah, I'm enjoying it. It's a good thing.

The all-ages show begins at 5:30 p.m. on Aug. 20 at Prescott Park on Marcy Street in Portsmouth. There is a $10 suggested donation at the gate. For more information, visit www.prescottpark.org.

 
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