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When “Blue Gold: The Fight to Stop Corporate Theft of the World’s
Water” hit bookstores in 2002, it became an indispensable international
best-seller. The book examined the global sale of water, in which
governments are increasingly selling rights to private corporations,
who by their nature must profit from the increasingly scarce commodity,
all under agreements created by the World Bank and World Trade
Organization.
“This is a crisis now. And the political question of who controls water
is an absolutely crucial one,” says Maude Barlow, co-author with Tony
Clarke of “Blue Gold.” Barlow joined a panel discussion at Phillips
Exeter Academy on Monday, April 24, to discuss “The Price of Water: A
Human Rights Issue.”
Barlow is also author of 14 other books, national chairperson of the
Council of Canadians, a 1,000-member nonpartisan citizen advocacy group
working to fight global trends in privatization and deregulation, and
director with the International Forum on Globalization.
The Wire caught up with Barlow on the afternoon of the discussion, at the Inn of Exeter.
You refer to “our” movement, and you use the word “we” a lot. … Who is it that you speak for?
I guess I always want to credit a movement much larger than myself.
It’s comprised of people who are fighting in their communities for
their water rights, but who’ve identified ourselves as part of a
movement to reclaim water as a public commons, and part of the Earth’s
and human heritage. We feel very strongly it musn’t be controlled by
large corporations and privatized and put on the open market.
You view access to potable water as a basic human right. Can you distinguish between a human right and a human need?
The World Bank and the World Trade Organization all insist that water
is a human “need”—of course it would not be in their benefit to call it
a human right, because in the end it’s really hard to sell or trade a
human right. And there’s a fight for the human right to water taking
place right now at the United Nations.
More and more countries are being pushed by their citizens to declare
water a human right. Uruguay was the first to go through a public
referendum at their election (declaring) that water was not only a
human right, but (one) that had to be delivered as a public service on
a not-for-profit basis. And Norway, a wealthy northern country, has
declared that it’s not going to send any more aid to the World Bank as
long as it’s giving privatization as a conditionality for water
services in the third world. So, bit by bit we’re beginning to see a
light on the horizon.
There are countries that are opposed: my country’s opposed, the United
States is opposed, most of Europe’s still opposed. Some (southern
countries) are afraid that they won’t be able to deliver—what does it
mean if they tell their people they have the legal right to water and
then can’t deliver?—and I understand their concerns. One has to draft
legislation that would be fair to countries that are not in a position
to afford to do this. But it is a right whose time has come.
The right to water was not included in the original UN Declaration of
Human Rights in 1948. It is imperative that we rectify that and that
people understand they don’t have to beg for water, they don’t have to
pay for it if they have no money, and they still have the right to
water. This is something that needs to be fundamentally understood by
everybody.
What is the status of water in countries like the United States and Canada?
Of course it’s more catastrophic in the third world, but in the United
States, there are pockets of the country that are running out of water
now. There are struggles around water all through New England, with
these big water companies coming in and taking huge amounts of the
groundwater, paying very little and (selling it) around the world.
California has 20 years’ supply left, New Mexico only has 10, Arizona’s
out. Idaho, Oklahoma, all of these states are up against a water
crisis.
There are three issues that I see. One is this reality of water
scarcity. The second is pollution. There is massive pollution in the
U.S. (and) leaking, old infrastructure. There are a lot of areas where
wastewater isn’t properly treated, and there are lot of new ingredients
in water like hormones and antibiotics that were never meant to be
pulled out by the treatment plant when it was first installed.
The third is that the United States is becoming a very deeply
class-based society. Detroit has actually put meters in and if people
can’t afford the water, they just deny them water. We’ve actually had
situations where social workers have come in and taken children away
from families because they say, “You’re not supplying them with water.”
So, this is right here in the U.S. The issue is still farther away for
most Americans, but it’s on its way here, there is absolutely no
question.
In your January 2005 interview in Mother Jones, you stated about
water that, “Basically, once you privatize it, it’s very very hard to
turn back.” Why?
It tends to be a one-way street. As an example, (private corporations)
do not invest in the third world. The World Bank places the investment.
The companies come in and run it, but in the end, if they don’t (make
money), they pull up and take off, and the public sector is left with
this mess.
And even if the private project has failed—and I can give you so many
examples, but just a recent one (is) the failure of (the French
company) Suez in La Paz, Bolivia—when the country says, “We want to
reverse this,” then the World Bank says, “Well, we won’t give you any
more funding for water services. You’re just on your own.”
A recent report from the UN shows that the private sector is just
failing. And that admission is being made by just about everybody, even
including the World Bank.
What we also fear is if they’re successful at the WTO in getting water
included as a service under the General Agreement on Trade and
Services, then once it’s been privatized in your own city, you won’t be
able to undo it. So we always say to places that are thinking about
this: Stay public, make it work. If there are things wrong with the
public (system), at least it’s in your hands, at least it’s
democratically controlled and you can make a bad situation better.
You’ve noted some unsettling statistics, that every eight seconds a
child dies of waterborne disease somewhere in the world and that The
World Bank and United Nations say that by the year 2025, two-thirds of
the world will be living without adequate access to water unless we do
something. At a minimum, 1.3 billion people live now in a water-scarce
situation, but close to another billion have substandard access. What
action is needed at this point, and by whom?
Just as the blood in your veins is necessary for your life, so is the
water through the veins of the Earth necessary for our collective life
on Earth. So we need to, first and foremost, start to understand that
and start to take care of water. We have to stop polluting. We have to
reclaim fouled waters. We have to shift from corporate and industrial
agriculture to a much more sustainable type of agriculture. We have to
shift from growing things in deserts, and growing cities like Las Vegas
in deserts that cannot sustain them. We’ve got to stop polluting
surface waters so we’re not mining the groundwater so much faster than
it can be replenished.
But along with that, of course, is the whole issue of water justice.
And the commitment to real water for all really does mean that
governments are going to have to come together, peoples are going to
have to come together and really take the next set of steps. It’ not
interrupting the trade and markets and economy yet. When it does,
that’s suddenly when people will say, “Ah. This water crisis is here.”
But, I’m telling you, at a human level, the crisis is already here.
What advice do you have for small and rather meagerly funded groups
like Save Our Groundwater, which is fighting a USA Springs bottling
plant here in southern New Hampshire?
Save Our Groundwater is a wonderful example of how a local citizen’s
group can be (effective). (They’ve) also worked toward building a New
Hampshire-wide coalition called the New Hampshire Water Table. The more
we’re all working together, the more this becomes a movement. The more
it becomes a movement, the more governments have to listen—they want to
get elected and they want to get re-elected. The more governments
listen, the more we can make things happen.
So know that what you do makes a difference, and not to feel that
you’re too small, and not to feel you don’t matter, and not to feel
that you’re up against all this big stuff and you can’t do anything.
That will paralyze you, for sure. Everybody can do something about the
world’s water crisis. Everybody.
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